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Unknown

Karlton. It's really, really a gift to be here with you. There's something so amazing about being in the presence of a true pioneer in the realms of pre and perinatal awareness, consciousness, memory, psychology, all of the above. Because already there is what I feel. At least all of me can be here in your presence. And so I already just say thank you for everything that you've been cultivating and delivering in the world, as you know.

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Unknown

And thanks to Christiana, you and I are now connected, which is really an honor. And as you know from her, I've recently birthed more assertive, referred to as a ten year gestation, the program called Luminescence Fertility and Pre Procreation Program. And what I feel to bring in as I sort of present it to you is actually what comes up in me right now, which is the anchoring of this program into the physical form has from start to finish.

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Unknown

And still now as it continues as being a re scripting of my own birth and my own emergence into the world in a lot of ways. So Luminescence is a 13 week, all encompassing program that is bringing the hearts and the life work of several pioneers. A few, I'm sure you know, and maybe I believe you've even touched one or two of them.

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Unknown

And these are pioneers who some have over 50 years of experience or 30 or 4020 years of experience in the realms of fertility, the real mysteries of fertility and love and relationships, pre and perinatal psychology, epigenetics and functional medicine, homeopathy, herbalism, etc. to what we're doing is we're creating a container that is really for those who are consciously choosing the path of parenthood, those who think they might one day have a family.

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Unknown

Because as we know, the concept in period can be years, as it definitely has been for me and also those who are struggling with fertility challenges. And I would say that, yeah, this is about optimizing trimester zero with the awareness that the time before conception directly informs trimester one, two, three and four, and that we have this enormous opportunity to welcome the consciousness that's now incarnating on Earth in a way that enables the consciousness of the child to remain intact from the very beginning of life.

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Unknown

So what makes this program different, and I'd love you to really enlighten me if I'm wrong about this, but I think it is the only program out there like this.

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Unknown

And for for these reasons we're bringing in, we're guiding the participants towards at least a newfound awareness for the importance of healing their own birth, pre birth conception and preconception experiences prior to conceiving. We are including the consciousness of the baby or babies as participants acknowledging that they are the number one experts in conception, pregnancy and birth. We're acknowledging that the couple who are those human beings who are choosing to open the gates for us all to come in are the quality of that relationship is the ultimately the sanctuary that will give birth to the family and nurture the family lifelong?

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Unknown

And then lastly, we are we have a whole piece which Barbara Essman, if you know her, she she runs the sacred birthing school on Kaua'i, Hawaii. She is an incredible elder. One of my my dear mentors, she's providing the peace, which is the men's role in birth and family creation. And so it's really a radical, all encompassing journey.

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Unknown

And I have spent extensive periods of time over several years in the Amazon really learning, living, working, apprenticing in ancient indigenous healing traditions. And I have also a lot of my own birth and pre birth memories largely still intact and something I continue to work with. And what I've realized, though, through witnessing a lot, a lot of people from our Western culture go through a very transformative of healing experiences in non ordinary traditional settings.

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Unknown

I started and also being actually very up close to some of the very frontier research going on in the world of epigenetics, which is predominantly looking at in this context, looking at the way in which ancient healing methods influence the epigenome, like changes in the DNA in this Amazonian healing setting. And I noticed a lot of limitations inside of those studies because they are looking at predominantly behavioral conditions or anxiety, depression, all of these modern things that we are written with in this part of the world and connecting them to the early childhood experiences, which we know is not where it began.

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Unknown

And so I you know, I started looking around at my peers and my generation, myself included, going, Oh my gosh, we are spending a lot of time, a lot of money, a lot of energy trying to figure out who we are and why we came. Surely this isn't this doesn't have to be this way. And then I thought, okay, well, for those of us who are excavating our our bone marrow, as I've said at one time, you know, of all the things that, you know, the false beliefs detox, defining our minds, our bodies, our psyches, surely we we can terminate these things and not pass them on to our children.

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Unknown

And this is where this is where the pre and perinatal psychology comes in. You won't go too far. But I have noticed a big gap in in modern personal development avenues of those becoming therapists, leaders, practitioners of some kind, having little awareness for these pre and perinatal realms. And so there's tremendous limitation there. So yeah, I bring this pre and perinatal awareness into a lot of spaces I think where it's really needed.

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Unknown

But in this context and the context of luminescence, it's really focusing on the beautiful humans who are choosing to open the gates for our future generations. Well, are all around us all the time, sweating, the waiting to get here. I mean, I don't know. I know where I came from. I think probably we all come from the same place.

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Unknown

Maybe it's nearby. I guess I just feel like there being souls everywhere all the time, looking for parents and wanting to get a body, You know, they want to body. You can't. You cannot smell like a good cup of coffee is without a body. It can make love. You can't go swimming, you can't garden. Mother body have to have a body.

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Unknown

And I really think a lot of I know a lot of beings, souls, you know, they they only come and get part of the experience and might be a little too much for and they come down with their twin and maybe they were supposed to help their twin gets established and they're like, okay, I've seen enough of you back, like come some other time.

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Unknown

You know, so many souls don't get born. 82% of concept conceptions don't make it to birth. But that doesn't mean there aren't souls having a human experience inside a body and eating and drinking and feeling intimacy and feeling struggle and feeling time. I don't think you feel time. Maybe you do real time wherever it is we come from.

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Unknown

But, you know, time, I think, begins when we have like, okay, that's seven days to implant. That's some pressure times all about pressure. Some of us, you know, it's like, okay, time I got it. My heart stress has to start beating. I'm not going to be able to push this deoxygenated blood out of my system. So time suddenly has an issue and gravity.

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Unknown

But yeah, having a body. It's wonderful, guys, to take good care of you when you when you get here. It's trying to, you know, my thing that my thing I've been doing lately. I love what you're doing. First of all, bless you. Bless you for that. God bless you. That is just was from from you know, you're doing this or thank you.

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Unknown

Thank you for getting started. And I want to support you and what you're doing. So let's talk about that better. But what I've noticed is that so many of our human maladies, things we don't want to read on the headlines, they don't need to be there. It's so clear to me that when a baby is born and it's hard to get born, it hurts to get born.

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Unknown

It hurts, Mom. It hurts, baby. It leaves traces in our cranium, at least constellations and connections in our brain that wouldn't be there. We hadn't been under the duress of compression and drag forces. And when we're born, if. If those events are acknowledged and shared right away, takes so much weight from the newborn. And when we're curious, honey, what have you, and what was it like for you?

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Unknown

Tell us. And they can tell their story or cry and get it out of their system. Is so healthy, is so beautiful, and it's not that hard and there's not that much to do. But Victoria, when that doesn't happen, all of that fear and anxiety and struggle has to go somewhere and it gets overlooked. And if it gets overlooked, it ends up in the system and it gets it gets repressed in this system and goes right into the collective unconscious, all that ugly stuff, then we're looking right back at us saying, okay, culture, here's where you're screwing up.

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Unknown

Read the headlines. This doesn't have to be like that. If we treat our babies right when they're born and, you know, before they're born and during their prenatal lives, her, I think you can change the world this way. Maybe we can. But at least for me, imagine and generation of babies who were consciously conceived and, you know, unconsciously they'll they can do it.

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Unknown

They can change this this world. I'm sure that anyone working in the field of birth can attest that there is so much support needed and in in various realms of the world of birth. And it was it was a process for me to choose what I really feel is my contribution, which is focused on the preconception time and largely on those who are choosing the path of parenthood.

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Unknown

And the process of coming to that place was it wasn't easy because I, I attended births in the hospital and I attended midwife attended births, which to some degree were more disappointing to me because for me, when I'm in the field of birth, it's a very completely altered state of consciousness. And, and there's a, my, my whole system completely shifts in the presence of this consciousness that is the unborn and the newborn.

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Unknown

And it was complete. It was so difficult for me on many, many, many occasions to witness the things that are being said at birth and what's being missed, what's not being seen and what's not being heard. The multi-dimensional awareness that we have truly forgotten how to listen and we how on earth could we get to a place where we realize this can has never been touched, These eyes have never been looked into?

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Unknown

You know, this is this is a welcoming of a soul. And and of course, there's all kinds of different ways that that all of us express our excitement and our joy or our grief or our fear. But around the board, I really saw wow, we have forgotten. And so over time, I realized, okay, absolutely. It's still the greatest honor to show up and witness women and families get born and give birth.

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Unknown

But I really feel this space that we can really harness the opportunity we have to to get prepared for this journey and to to connect with the consciousness of these beings that are coming into the world on purpose, just like we did. And maybe you agree. I think the most direct and efficient way to to remember what it's for is to revisit our own birth and to just firsthand remember what it was that we needed when we were getting born, or the kind of love and support we wish our mom had when we were growing in her belly.

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Unknown

All these things. Yeah, but I really love the territory of pre-conception and I want to kind of, I don't know, share or be curious about the nomenclature and the moniker as we develop for these territories. Because for me, there's, you know, in the early 2000, I was doing a lot of work with the embodiment journeys and the sperm journey and the egg journey and conception and those are cells there body, there's body involved.

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Unknown

And so my, my, my nomenclature was there's this preconception, which is before, before there's a union and the first cell division that's pre conception. But there's also a big relationship with the world and our parents and our bodies before we're identifying with a particular sperm or a particular egg. And our mother's body. And that period for me is is comes before preconception and I've called it pre embodiment know I like that name but a few years in Taos when we were developing these courses we realized you can regress to unknown body states almost as easily as you can regress your birth.

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Unknown

It just took us a little while to find the pathways there. And so we started doing that. We called them the hourglass classes because that shape is just so iconically beautiful and incredible. It's about time also. But when you think about all the hourglass shapes we go through, like a pelvis is an hourglass and when you go into your implantation process, you're going from one world through a narrow place in the middle into other worlds, an hourglass shape.

00:19:03:18 - 00:19:42:19

Unknown

The head of the sperm going into this zone, a palooza is an hourglass. And our feelings that those of us that were researching these pre embodied states were that we had a site, we were we were really big and spread out and some space without having a lot of self ness yet but something happens almost like a gong goes off and it is a solitary vibration and all these bits of Victoria like, oh that's the Victoria Gong.

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Unknown

What are they, you know, and almost like a mist in the universe collects itself into itself the way a crystal makes itself. And so we were doing these, these regressions where we would find the early, earliest vibration at the level of the soul. And we realized that something happened. And all of us, I don't think it was it was random and we weren't guiding people there.

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Unknown

What happened was we had we had these sudden quiet, if you call it mess, we had these sudden like concentrations of our mists and then boom, we were something else. It was like, we call it a quantum drop because it's on the other side of doing that. There was a more densify energetic field of the self, like finding it on a morning long, finding the evening mist condensed in a bubble of water and leave.

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Unknown

It's condensed and it has a self, you know that that bubble on that leaf came together from all kinds of places. So we were doing a lot of our pre embodiment work. We got involved with these images like our glasses and the sense of like, okay, we are we don't have a body yet, but we have a replica nice bubble, something that's us.

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Unknown

And it was so beautiful finding those places so close to humanity, so close to being conceived. And it's almost like there's where you want to hear that the song of the mother who wants to conceive or the mother and father, you know, maybe we're way out there and we're just miss. But they're singing my song, man. Oh, my gosh, I absolutely love that.

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Unknown

It's like music to my heart is listening. These big. I love the the hourglass shapes that you were have been exploring through that pre embodiment work. And I think that's a wonderful that's wonderful nomenclature pre embodiment work. I guide a lot of adults to revisit their birth in pre birth conception preconception experiences and accessing that library those inner archives are it's amazing because there's no other way to gather this information then in this very experiential way and I'm sure you've noticed the same thing, that there are patterns that show up.

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Unknown

It doesn't matter how much one believes they had a consciousness before they entered form or how open or non open they are to this work, or they're gathering a ton of information about not only life before birth, life before body. And and there clearly is an awareness there. There clearly there seems to be an essence. And and I think the pre-conception work is so, so important because it it it enables us to welcome the soul in.

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Unknown

And I really feel like the the journey of revisiting the birth pre birth experiences is a process of re welcoming the soul into the body because of the intensity. A lot of the soul expression isn't coming in. And so the whole work actually and embodiment work is yeah. And it's so pure. There's no persona or vanity or, or making story making up.

00:23:53:10 - 00:24:29:17

Unknown

It's just pure information that hasn't been, you know, soiled in any sacred information. It's so clear that it's a real. Yeah. And I'm doing a series of I don't know what they're called. I guess it's sort of like a video podcast cast where I'm having a conversation with a man named Klaus Efforts. He's the he's the publisher of all these.

00:24:29:17 - 00:25:07:03

Unknown

This one, the this huge this is handbooks of perinatal psychology, and they're 800 pages long and little bit John and Rupert Lynn. They're publishing these. And then I've been working with Klaus about this right now he's into Harry and Inception. So we're having dialogs about Harry Conception, and it's such an interesting territory because you can, you can understand so much of the biology is clear.

00:25:07:06 - 00:25:32:01

Unknown

We we know what happens to the sperm and egg because we can see it now. You see it under microscopes, sadly. Really, I like the mystery of it, but we can see it and and we can see how conception is. So we know there are five basic stages of the sperm journey. We know it's resting in the and we know it gets ejaculated.

00:25:32:02 - 00:25:53:01

Unknown

We know what it was dies when it gets over. There's only one lonely set on the universe that travels in someone else's body. Right? So that's kind of its while. And then we know that it has to swim up and then we know it never comes back. And and for me, this is the story of the Holy Grail.

00:25:53:01 - 00:26:32:17

Unknown

I mean, the the egg is a vessel of life as a sacred vessel of life. And what's holier than that, right, Victoria? I mean, and yet she can't do it on her own. And it's not just chromosomal and genetic material. She didn't have a central she can't divide. So. So these these knights and their ponies and their, you know, gallant armor carved feathers and slippy tails, they all go in search of the Holy Grail and even the one who finds the Holy Grail.

00:26:32:19 - 00:26:58:20

Unknown

He doesn't come back either. So this is why they never come back. But they deliver the goods to the Holy Grail and life comes from there. And so we know the stages that the egg goes through their five basic ones, and conception itself has 12 basic stages. They're all so God, when you study them, they're so proper and intense.

00:26:58:20 - 00:27:31:03

Unknown

It's like, there's no way to get here except this way. It's impossible. We would explode or implode if we didn't take all of these very interesting, complex steps and every single one of them is ripe for influencing our shape, our ideas, our trajectory of life, who we are, our belief systems and behavior patterns, all those stage is by the chapters of the beginning of us.

00:27:31:05 - 00:28:13:03

Unknown

And so I love this territory, pre-conception and period conception and I'm I talk about it all day, and I just want to make sure I'm not hijacking our conversation. Passionate about it, of course. I mean, again, this is truly, truly music. And I love I love I love everything that you're saying. Oh, thank you. I so, so love what you're saying about the Grail and and the mysteries around all of it.

00:28:13:03 - 00:29:12:10

Unknown

Because, yeah, even though we do, we can see it now under a microscope and we do have so much research. That's unbelievable. It's incredible. It does still remain this mystery. And and we know this it's an it's an innate part of our quintessential beingness. And and where I go and I'd love for you to speak to this more because I think it's so interesting how the theme excuse me of this conversation remains about embodiment and what you just described is this mystery, this we're getting into the mysteries of the most ancient original wisdom that I think we could say is fertility in the worshiping of fertility.

00:29:12:12 - 00:29:50:08

Unknown

And there is so much going on in our world right now. But the one thing I will I will bring in is this imbalance of the masculine and the feminine and this very popular beliefs in our modern society of I can do this on my own. And many people, particularly in my generation, are really even coming to a point where they think family is not a good idea.

00:29:50:10 - 00:30:15:18

Unknown

And and so, yeah, I just would like to kind of link those really deep inherent parts of the mystery of what spiraled us into being to really what's going on in the world today, where, yeah, we do. It's part of our inherent blueprint that we're not meant to do this on our own and sure we can. And that's an option.

00:30:15:18 - 00:30:48:07

Unknown

And, and then and I'm not in any way saying that anyone who is choosing that route shouldn't be at all. There's so many ways to create family and set family up. And we but to come back into into these basics of this wisdom is inherent. Yeah. And there are a lot of ways that it can get taken away from you.

00:30:48:09 - 00:31:31:06

Unknown

And unfortunately, in a lot of the ways we don't support these territories of pre-conception and pregnancy and birth, this is where things get tricky in a way, because there's so many invasions of strategical intervention, for example, you know, that just changes in so many ways to Victoria. And I'm like, I'm like you in my book is called What's My Birth Codes called New Parenting and Change Your World.

00:31:31:08 - 00:31:57:06

Unknown

And I talk about the Himba tribe in there and you know, how the parts I talked about were the song, the song of you. Your mother finds you out there in the universe and starts singing a song calling you in, and that maybe I'm idealizing this, but, you know, then she, she, she goes straight to her husband and teaches him that song.

00:31:57:06 - 00:32:25:00

Unknown

And then they sing that through the pregnancy. And I'm a big advocate of when I come bridging, which means that things done during pregnancy should be done right after birth and through those early months, like singing the same songs while you're in the womb and after you're in the womb and, you know, I really encourage parents to have a book of poetry or a kid's book that they read in utero.

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Unknown

In the same book, they read, you know, an extra year uterine reading and even like go to the same place or go to the park with that book and that sandwich and just know you'll be having it later with somebody wrapped around your body and all these little bridges just make life so much closer, better and safer and help us keep more of ourselves with us when we're coming through all these difficult challenges, these stressful through the narrow part of the hourglass.

00:33:02:20 - 00:33:27:06

Unknown

And so the idea of community that you are saying it's like, wow, everybody in the tribe news room, Joey's song, he found out and give her an uncle, come over and start singing his song, Carry on anybody else's person three or four people singing is taking him to his mom and she'll patch him up. And you know, when he gets married, he they'll sing his song and his wife.

00:33:27:06 - 00:34:17:12

Unknown

So when he's dying, they're singing his song. There's this continuity of honoring the sacredness of an individual that can be sustained and expressed. And in a song like that, and what the song is victorious, the recognition at a deep, compassionate level of that song. I'm very familiar with that tribe and that tradition, and it really touches me that you bring it in because I am in my pre-conception period, which I think has been for many years, but very clearly these beings are just about to make their way.

00:34:17:12 - 00:35:13:03

Unknown

So it's very palpable now. And and yeah, I have had a song come through me. I do sing and I sing in a ceremonial context for healing. And and and this song came through in the most spontaneous kind of way. And it's I'd like to actually share. It's interesting to get to know that being or those beings through this song and to begin nurturing this relationship and bonding through that song and to already feel them responding to it and how that is also bringing them in.

00:35:13:05 - 00:35:47:01

Unknown

And I like to share something with because a lot yeah. And pick your brain about it and also just share the experience with you. A lot of my I have been I've been kind of naturally communicating with babies and unborn babies since I can remember since I was a little, little, little one. Man, that's so cool. And to me, to me, I've always felt like we are the babies are way more conscious than the humans.

00:35:47:03 - 00:36:24:11

Unknown

It's just normal, right? That's all. Normal. Yeah. And and I went off to University College. I did a massage therapy training in Canada, which in Canada is very extensive training. When I finally graduate it, I started working in a multidisciplinary clinic with other chiropractors, physios, this kind of setting, but very immediately my practice magnified, expecting mothers. And this moment I would lay my hands on their body.

00:36:24:11 - 00:36:52:01

Unknown

I couldn't hear crystal clear what their babies were saying, more clear than if someone at an adult who could speak with words would be sitting in the chair next to us. It was so truly clear and remarkable when and if I would share what I would be hearing, the entire physiology of the mother would completely shift. Everything would come into balance.

00:36:52:01 - 00:37:28:00

Unknown

Her whole demeanor would totally change. And there was this unquestionable knowing in her entire being that, yes, of course, what this baby is saying is true. And these were not really far out things. These were like very practical, very obviously the baby knows exactly what they need. And on several occasions there was very strong communication of get the cell phone away from me yet turn off the wi fi at nighttime.

00:37:28:02 - 00:38:07:12

Unknown

And I began. I'm also very, very visual. I've been I've been very visual since I was born. And so I will often tune in to energies visually and and what I would see is the the soul as it's leaving this place of total illumination, this vast, vast realm of oneness, which you so beautifully speculated around earlier. And as we're we're entering form and coming through these dimensions like we are music, we are sound vibration.

00:38:07:14 - 00:38:59:19

Unknown

And so as we sing and as we play music and some of these very ancient songs, as especially, they remind the soul of where they're from and who they are and keep us essentially connected to this realm of oneness and maintain our interconnectedness. But these other sound currents that we don't hear, but the babies do hear them, the radioactive sound currents, the on or technologies that are used on pregnant mamas, the 5G towers that we have now, the cell phones that all of these things are emitting a frequency in The way that I've seen it is that it's kind of cutting out the connection and it's very hard.

00:38:59:20 - 00:39:44:10

Unknown

So it's like it's almost interrupting the connection. And we have an amazing opportunity, mainly through our awareness to help the souls remain connected, to help ourselves, even to remain connected to to where we are from, which is not really outside of us in any way. It's an infinite seems to be an IT part. So I'm very, very fascinated around this piece of sound vibration and the ways in which we can maintain this interconnectedness to our source all the way through.

00:39:44:10 - 00:40:40:12

Unknown

And and if you've explored this or had I'm sure you have had thoughts about it. Yeah, I just thought I would I would share this piece. So thank you. It's wonderful. I mean, the site tech checking site, if you have a question that you could just that would crystallize from for you ask me. Let's see what that is.

00:40:40:14 - 00:41:02:09

Unknown

You know, I think it's around listening. How do we restore this art of listening and because listening to me doesn't it's different than hearing.

00:41:02:11 - 00:41:50:16

Unknown

But how can we listen in a way that enables us to hear our babies? Okay, okay. I've got like six answers. So I'll start with some practical ones. First of all, maybe body language is the language is a very specific and I've learned it from babies. I didn't have a mentor that taught me baby body language. I just somehow I got the either the privilege or the burden that I get.

00:41:50:18 - 00:42:18:07

Unknown

What they're saying at the level that they want to be heard and the language just quickly, it's like, imagine you're in, you're going down to cash cows and you want to find a really good restaurant where a lot of good ones down there. Right. And you get up on a train platform and let's say you're you're French and yet you don't speak French very well.

00:42:18:09 - 00:42:47:15

Unknown

But you hear some people like on the platform speaking French, you're going to maybe drift towards those people if you miscues it and you'll get their attention. And then imagine that they don't just speak French from college, but they speak French because they're from a certain part of France, lives nearby, a certain part of France where you're from.

00:42:47:15 - 00:43:15:17

Unknown

Suddenly the language deepens and you get all these nuances that wouldn't be there if you were just having high school French, talking to high school French and baby body language is a lot like that. The more you speak it, the more you the more you recognize it, the more they get it. And then it actually invites them to sort of up their game and tell you more.

00:43:15:17 - 00:43:46:10

Unknown

And pretty soon they're telling you exactly what you need to know. So that's one one thing about maybe body language for another thing about baby body language is babies speak, but they don't listen to it. They see just they speak it, but they don't, you know, know anything about hearing it from any any other babies. They're just not operating on that level.

00:43:46:12 - 00:44:21:18

Unknown

Another thing about baby body language is that they babies only ask for what they what they need. They only ask for what they want and they only want what they need. They don't need anything else. It's so beautiful. There's this list of we can make a list. Emerson made a list of needs crying where babies cry if they're hungry or thirsty or sleepy or cold or wet or whatever.

00:44:21:18 - 00:44:52:17

Unknown

And then if they're still crying after that, that's baby body language and they're crying amount and implicit memory. They're crying about something inside that so bugging them and they want to help with that. And if learn how to listen to that, you can tell what they're asking for, where you can tell how old they were when this wobble happened.

00:44:52:17 - 00:45:23:11

Unknown

You can tell where in the journey was it at. You know, during drift, when the egg was drifting into towards the fallopian tube, or was it stage three of birth? I mean, you could tell exactly where. It's so amazing. That's now I was working with someone. We could tell by their baby's baby body language that they still had flippers and they were dealing with some umbilical affect.

00:45:23:13 - 00:45:43:14

Unknown

And we could tell by the kind of how the size of the cord looked and the size of the flippers that this baby was a first trimester baby after implantation, after discovery, but before the second trimester. So we narrowed it down to a two week period and we said to the women, what happened in a two week period?

00:45:43:18 - 00:46:13:01

Unknown

Oh, that's when Michael lost his job. We had to change our home. Oh, my God. And I even wasn't even sure I was really pregnant then. You see. So the cool thing about baby body language is that if we listen to it, it can dial us right into where something happened, how it happened, which part of the body it happened to, and the types of psychological consequences that might be influence.

00:46:13:01 - 00:46:52:18

Unknown

So it's such a deep, loving way to get in and help someone do the same thing with adults. You know, I've certainly seen this sort of thing show up in adults for sure. Sometimes people come to me expressing they're having troubles conceiving or a different fertility Reproductive things are showing up and the first thing I would do I do is really ask them, Well, what what do you know about your own birth and what do you know about what was going on in your parents life around the time you conceived?

00:46:52:20 - 00:47:42:10

Unknown

And it seems yeah. Often times there is something that happened in this window, even before plantation, sometimes where right after conception, maybe there was a big fight between mom and dad or a family member was lost or something. And and that being learned, conception is not safe. If I can see something really catastrophic or maybe my whole family will become sad or and these are not explicit beliefs, of course, but these are memories that live in the body and you're still protecting that person through even hormonal pathways.

00:47:42:10 - 00:48:15:15

Unknown

Everything. Yeah, those are in they mean those are implicit memories that are innately held and they're really so we can actually hear them. They get our attention, don't they. Then we can do something about them. So when they start knocking on our door, it's like, oh, the real thing under here, this is an implicit memory. Now is kind of means mainstream more or less.

00:48:15:15 - 00:48:47:19

Unknown

But it didn't used to be. And, you know, we've been working with implicit memory. I've been working on it for 30 years. It was called cellular memory, Body memory, you know, birth memory and prenatal memory. But that yeah, there's a lot of experiences that are recorded in our body that often create, like you're saying, a behavior pattern or a belief system about my validity or my, you know, shame systems and so forth.

00:48:47:19 - 00:49:25:06

Unknown

And so it's so beautiful the way implicit memory some on our daughter ask us, you know, can we work on this now, please? So if we and for this reason, at least with my approach to those who are facing challenges with conception, I in every single case, it turns out to be an enormous gift and an opportunity to do a healing that, had they conceived right off, perhaps wouldn't have ever happened.

00:49:25:06 - 00:50:05:03

Unknown

And so it's actually an opportunity to be to do really right a new story for their children and to maximize the potential of that. It turns out to be always an amazing pre-conception preparation. And when and when there are blockages, that is the intelligence, the wisdom inherent in conception and pregnancy and birth and all life that are something that something needs to happen here in order that you can become the parent for this being.

00:50:05:05 - 00:50:37:16

Unknown

And if we skip this step, then that's going to continue showing up the whole way through. And what I love about all of this is we know that birth experiences, at minimum have life long implications, this is for sure. But I really feel and have experienced through my own recollection and continued work around my own earliest experiences, that we're right.

00:50:37:16 - 00:51:19:06

Unknown

We're rewriting a much bigger story than this lifetime. And the way we're born informs the way we live, informs the way we die, and I know my soul a little, you know, it's and yet as little and insignificant as we are, if these minor awarenesses that we respect create like a space where space is needed, increased, it's a spent expansion.

00:51:19:08 - 00:51:55:02

Unknown

We're little. But when we when we enact something out of empathy or compassion, there's an energy there. And it's an expansive energy. So much of birth is about compression, for example, and contraction and constrictions. And the universe is expanding. It's still expanding. Any time we can release a contraction and allow unknown bodily trauma to evaporate, we're part of that expansion.

00:51:55:02 - 00:52:30:14

Unknown

It's almost like we're helping turn the to the COGS and, you know, the dials of the universe. If we are an integrity and listening to what our psyche is asking us to do, because like with babies, our psyche will never ask us to do anything that's no good for us or the world. So we can dial it down and hear that some of our psychological suggest matches and goals and trajectories get pretty clear.

00:52:30:16 - 00:53:09:12

Unknown

If we can, we can just know that, Whoa, this is my path. This is some part of my trajectories. A little different than I thought, but thank you, Karlton, for one of my most vivid memories of my own entrance into the world was that of really yearning for my mama to ask me about my experience. I felt like I had lived lifetimes in the womb, and it was so confusing.

00:53:09:12 - 00:53:42:10

Unknown

Why I emerged. And no one like nothing that I was seeing was of any reflection to what was going on inside. And I've come to discover that if I didn't have to hold that experience all on my own, that the grief that was associated with my own twin loss before implantation wouldn't have become so suppressed inside of my system.

00:53:42:12 - 00:54:23:12

Unknown

And so through this, we know, okay, in order to really hear our babies, in order for us to support them and love them as they integrate one of the most heroic journeys of their lives to integrate this passage into the world, we need to slow down as much as humanly possible, wherever that opportunity becomes available. And now we have the industrialization of pregnancy, where more and more women are outsourcing actually innate motherly capacity.

00:54:23:12 - 00:54:52:24

Unknown

The art of listening from the time of pre-conception and just signing up for the things, the routines, the procedures. And that continues throughout pregnancy. So continuously looking outside to to find out what's going on with me or my body or my baby. And so the the listening is already dismantled. And we have this devices that are keeping our brainwaves in.

00:54:52:24 - 00:55:30:21

Unknown

Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. PACE So for the purpose of this interview and for our listeners, could we just ask you, like, what do you have to say to this modern in my generation through yeah, we're in this technological age, we're moving very quickly. Our attention spans are not getting bigger, they're getting shorter and we have these precious incredibly holy beings coming into our arms, coming into our lives.

00:55:30:23 - 00:56:04:23

Unknown

What what would you have to say to all of us? I think I think you said it, Victoria, as mothers must be curious. What have you been through? And he also like for you, I know what it was like for me. I remember some parts were really hard and I remember was too much for me sometimes. And I left you and just I remember now, you know.

00:56:04:23 - 00:56:33:03

Unknown

What was it like? Tell me what it was like if if, if I can listen and let myself listen, you can load that on me and that. Or our mother. Mom or whoever our family is. You can have a low that you let that out of your system. A sorrow shared is a sorrow halved. And so share, share, share.

00:56:33:05 - 00:57:02:16

Unknown

And this curiosity doesn't even have to have an action following behind. It's just like a sponge of listening. And it's not it's it's not pursuit. It's not what happened. Maybe what's going on, you know, it's not tell me, you know, maybe is going to go like that. It's like this breastfeeding distance where the eyes are this far apart.

00:57:02:16 - 00:57:30:16

Unknown

It stimulates the radar, but only of to the cortex of the baby work, the whole rhythm of self formation. This organizing, this distance is perfect for that part of the brain. It's like it's like Dad's mom is this. This is kind of new to me. Just I just tell me, tell me. With your body and and our job is to listen.

00:57:30:18 - 00:57:52:21

Unknown

It's so hard for us to listen, babies. Well, we're we're exam. There's a lot of different reasons, but you know, the baby, there's a lot of different reasons. They want to ask all kinds of our actions and I me a couple of different ones in a second here but what do people do in their babies? Are they know what Come on back here.

00:57:52:21 - 00:58:32:03

Unknown

Me why we do that? And, you know, it's like pushing them away from something they their body wants to do. Their body wants to do it for a reason. So much of their baby body movements are pure sacred motion filled with information, not just random, non relational, wiggling. And I've told parents, you know, if your baby let's ask well, let's let it hang out there, see what she does.

00:58:32:05 - 00:59:02:14

Unknown

And some babies even like, well, what's going on here? You do you want to be like that? Okay, honey, let's just listen to you and we will support you to express yourself rather than repress you. And this is in my book, too. It's it's. It's so easy. I have so many moms used to come with because. Because they were they were feeding their baby every time their baby cried because they didn't know what else to do.

00:59:02:14 - 00:59:43:03

Unknown

They did not listen and and not get activated by their crack babies. These cherry babies coming into my practice because moms naturally get a beeping red alert when their baby cries, and so do actually adults. And so to actually adult men who don't have children. Yeah, the human baby cry is made to be the most irritating sound in the world because it's what gets our attention more than anything is why people say, Shout that baby up, you know?

00:59:43:05 - 01:00:34:05

Unknown

And it's so important for us to realize that when we hear that sound, it's not dangerous. Usually it's a baby saying, Help me with something. And so we can listen to that sound. And sometimes moms need support to listen to their baby's cries so that they don't get activated. But but the idea is, if you let a baby do what it wants, if it's crying instead of putting an animal or bottle in its mouth, I mean, if, if, if, if my high school son came home and he'd been in a tennis match and he broke his elbow and he broke his racket he screwed up his favorite pair of shoes, he came home, his team

01:00:34:05 - 01:01:07:09

Unknown

lost, he's crying. He has all these things that happened that he wants to cry about. Am I going to go? He only have a sandwich. We don't do that to adults who are crying and want to tell their story. Oh, well, he's doing that to her baby. Is is is to her. Because just a little patience and a little listening to crying really helps babies feel better in their bodies and that they're not going to cry forever.

01:01:07:09 - 01:01:40:12

Unknown

They're going to stop once they get done talking about it. Her like, did I answer your question or even answer the same question? I'm not sure you more than answered it. Yes. Yeah. Gosh, I am just so happy for every baby that has ever come into your arms and every baby that will ever still get to come into your arms, we'll do our best.

01:01:40:12 - 01:02:06:06

Unknown

And we were really learning how to share what we know. Oh, yes. I finally wrote a book. New Parenting Can Change Your World. Actually, the title of the book I made was New Parenting Can Change the World. But this editor said he should say it could change your world because then more moms will buy your book. And I don't know how that went down.

01:02:06:06 - 01:02:44:08

Unknown

But the thing is, listening is such a promise is such a reward in your guts. Where is God talking? It's this divine talking when you can listen and you will hear back to pre-conception in every note. That baby's on a trajectory that's started there and it's meeting you here now. So yeah, please listen. Let's listen to what they want to tell us.

01:02:44:10 - 01:03:24:13

Unknown

And body language is language. Yeah. Know you want to get me started on body language? I'm assembling right now a recommended reading list for our participants in Luminescence, and that book will be on their without a doubt. Yeah. Wow. Amazing. Amazing. Babies are how many mothers ask me. And I've been under some duress lately because I had surgery and I've been in bed healing.

01:03:24:13 - 01:03:54:06

Unknown

And I started I got into Tik Tok and Instagram and I started seeing all kinds of and got a really cool algorithm. Now because I, I go to Tik tok, I have babies, horses and donkeys and goats, farms, southwest archeology and the cosmos. And that's all I see now. It's wonderful, but I see all these. Not why my baby I pulling on her ear.

01:03:54:08 - 01:04:30:24

Unknown

Mm. Well, it's because that her ear is the ear that was lying against your bone. You LSP, when you were being born. And so compression forces push that ear into the bone, dragged forces, pulled it down, and now your little tentar interim has a wobble in it. And so your baby is just doing some cranial sacral on itself, trying to pull that pentagram out.

01:04:31:01 - 01:05:05:08

Unknown

And all of this body language where where parts of the body like hair pulling and eye rubbing. This is another form of I mean, this is a form of eye rubbing. This is a form of rubbing on. These different gestures involve the hands of the body, sort of being unconsciously magnetized towards where the implicit memories are inside and where they want to be talked to.

01:05:05:10 - 01:05:56:15

Unknown

So in named somatic magnetism, because it's the body being magnetized to the body and often babies will literally point to where the bull's eye is grounded. It was right here on me. Ground zero is right here on me. Ground Zero over here on me. So if you're a Seiko practitioner and Osteopath or a lactation specialist maybe can suck on this things because I always in your head and that's, I guess, what it comes from all these compressions that are retained in the cranium this but that's a millimeter and a half thin, highly ossified pressed against the hard, dense bone of the mother, which is 30 millimeters.

01:05:56:17 - 01:06:26:00

Unknown

Who's going to give in that situation? All right. And there's a there's a brain inside those bones. So, yes. So this isn't this is another thing that babies are constantly telling us with their baby body language. It's about it mostly about the cranium. This there are some gestures of some magnetism that are about other prenatal stages, but the mechanical ones are on on the head.

01:06:26:02 - 01:07:08:05

Unknown

We try to listen to somatic magnetism. And when we do and we hear them even sometimes just cry about it, sometimes that's all they need. And they're done crying about ample hair. And sometimes you can you deal with it in a session or two. If you're the biodynamic cranial psychotherapist or an osteopath or chiropractor. So I think we kicked off this last little segment with you saying something about how do we listen to our babies and honestly, that's just a handful of the many ways we can.

01:07:08:07 - 01:07:38:16

Unknown

Thank you so much, Karlton. I feel this is one of the most crucial conversations we could be having. And, you know, so so glad that we get to have it in a way that it can touch the lives in the hearts of so many others. And hopefully it does. How can we also support your endeavors? And is there is there how can we give back to you for giving so, so much and continuously So you said that you have a video series coming out, right?

01:07:38:18 - 01:08:10:17

Unknown

Yeah. Just come to our class is going to have an online baby therapy course we're sending out a bear survey in the next few week or two about it's almost ready. Amazing. It chronicles all this archival footage from 2008, went on tour like this vigorous tour. And you're really teaching so much about the relational field and developing report.

01:08:10:19 - 01:08:41:23

Unknown

When can you work with the baby? What's prenatal language look like? What's parent language look? How do you treat it? And then we have videos of actual sessions and then we have modern commentary about it and we have our point that goes along with all the teaching. And I think that's a great course for anybody who wants to learn to be with babies and how any any practitioner could probably learn a lot from from that.

01:08:41:23 - 01:09:27:24

Unknown

But also we also we also do a little like I'm doing an episode called Ask Katie, where I just talk about the different stages, different times different things that happen prenatally and perinatal for people. Yes, has come to some of our classes, if you like, and come to some of our little webinars and see what you think. And we also support a lot of people where they where they need it because we have this window of our expertise and I anywhere I can fit that in to help someone else have like a bigger tool kit or to help them have more balance in their organization and or more skills or what they do.

01:09:28:01 - 01:10:19:05

Unknown

We love to do that. I supervise a lot of baby practitioners and we have little teams of like, you know, four, five, six, seven and eight team members that we meet once a month and do supervision and mentorship. So we, you know, come to some of those or send people to buy my book. Yes, I, I somewhere I can remember this looks like this amazing out and change world and it's lots of pictures and if you like seeing pictures lots of drawings what grandparents can do, you know, games you can play with babies.

01:10:19:07 - 01:10:40:18

Unknown

So in here it's mostly about listening how to listen to your babies explain themselves and how to hear them cry and how to be able to, you know, help them by listening to their. I love this book. Oh, gosh, I already love this book. I can't wait to get my hands on it and share it with everyone I really mean that.

01:10:40:18 - 01:11:09:16

Unknown

Karlton. Wow. I love it, too. Here's an example of some marrow magnetism that made me think that's my I got her in stage one A when I was lying against my mother's LSP and things got pushed in that way. So which isn't I mean, it's just. But he's my daughter. And they laughed when I was much younger and she was much younger.

01:11:09:18 - 01:11:50:18

Unknown

If you stare at each other, I love her so much. So anyway, and here's what I was talking about, look at this. That's what we're up against as babies. Yeah. And it hurts. Birth, hurts, hurts. Because our faces are traumatically rearranged from all these pressures. We go through the. Oh, my goodness. There's so many things that, oh, gosh, I have a whole Segway for our next conversation, but I don't dare speak it out loud.

01:11:50:18 - 01:12:21:18

Unknown

Otherwise we'll be speaking for 3 hours here. I would love I would love, love, love to have another conversation with you, Karlton. Wow. You need to being so nourishing. Thank you. So many. Thank you, Victoria. Really dig in doing Bless you. Bless you for what you're doing. And I honor you. And I don't hear transparency in your own process.

01:12:21:18 - 01:12:52:02

Unknown

And I just think I just think you're awesome. So thank you for doing what you do. Thank you so much, Karlton. Yeah, Good luck. Thanks. And let me know in supporting. Okay, Wonderful. I will. Thank you so much. I can look forward to our next conversation. Well, me too. Just let me know. I'll be there, so. Okay. Bye for now, Ariana.

01:12:52:04 - 01:12:53:17

Unknown

Bye bye.